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	<title>Comments on: Getting Ready To Rumble</title>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Enjoy Our Semi-Abusive Opinion Mongering &#187; Ten Years? Ten! And Not Just Coasting</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/03/02/166/comment-page-2/#comment-251773</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Enjoy Our Semi-Abusive Opinion Mongering &#187; Ten Years? Ten! And Not Just Coasting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Campbell&#8217;s mysterious, unfathomable, and eerie powers of knowing when he is mentioned appear to be on the fritz. Nearly two weeks to respond? Gotta get back in shape, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Enjoy Our Semi-Abusive Opinion Mongering &#187; Books!</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/03/02/166/comment-page-2/#comment-251757</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Enjoy Our Semi-Abusive Opinion Mongering &#187; Books!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] explicit exposition. Hooray for middle grounds, and check out Odori Park &#8212; it&#8217;s good. (time from publication to T showing up in the comments starts: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] explicit exposition. Hooray for middle grounds, and check out Odori Park &#8212; it&#8217;s good. (time from publication to T showing up in the comments starts: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Fleen Book Corner: THOW</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/03/02/166/comment-page-2/#comment-7475</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Fleen Book Corner: THOW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Books, Gary   Editor&#8217;s note: Hoo boy, could this one devolve quickly. I&#8217;ve spent a month now very carefully reading and re-reading, very carefully making and cross-checking notes, very carefully writing what you&#8217;re about to read. As we discuss the book, please bear in mind that we&#8217;re not going to argue opinion on this one; whether or not Campbell is correct is for others to fight over. We will be looking at only whether or not Campbell has effectively made and advanced his points. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Books, Gary   Editor&#8217;s note: Hoo boy, could this one devolve quickly. I&#8217;ve spent a month now very carefully reading and re-reading, very carefully making and cross-checking notes, very carefully writing what you&#8217;re about to read. As we discuss the book, please bear in mind that we&#8217;re not going to argue opinion on this one; whether or not Campbell is correct is for others to fight over. We will be looking at only whether or not Campbell has effectively made and advanced his points. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Because Stirring Up Shitstorms Is Fun</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/03/02/166/comment-page-2/#comment-6959</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Because Stirring Up Shitstorms Is Fun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But first, with a apologies to whichever lit-crit school it is that declares authorial intent irrelevant (I never learned those things; I went to nerd school), I draw your attention to today&#8217;s Starslip Crisis. Clearly, Kristofer Straub is taking the opportunity to kick T Campbell while he&#8217;s hurting and should be enjoying himself. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But first, with a apologies to whichever lit-crit school it is that declares authorial intent irrelevant (I never learned those things; I went to nerd school), I draw your attention to today&#8217;s Starslip Crisis. Clearly, Kristofer Straub is taking the opportunity to kick T Campbell while he&#8217;s hurting and should be enjoying himself. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Back From The Internetless Wastes</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/03/02/166/comment-page-2/#comment-5457</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Back From The Internetless Wastes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gary   &#8230; and tired as hell. Which is probably why, in the context of this, I find this far funnier than I should. After all, we here at Fleen are all about webcomics community, and not interested in provoking shitstorms or internet fights to the bloody death. That being said, Bunny is owning all over those birds (start here and keep clicking on &#8220;next&#8221;, through the ten updates that Lem managed in one day). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gary   &#8230; and tired as hell. Which is probably why, in the context of this, I find this far funnier than I should. After all, we here at Fleen are all about webcomics community, and not interested in provoking shitstorms or internet fights to the bloody death. That being said, Bunny is owning all over those birds (start here and keep clicking on &#8220;next&#8221;, through the ten updates that Lem managed in one day). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Fleen Book Corner: CL</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/03/02/166/comment-page-2/#comment-3672</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Fleen Book Corner: CL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 21:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Uncategorized   So the fine men and women of the United States Postal Service finally got me my copy of Howard Tayler&#8217;s first Schlock Mercenary book today (postmarked the 15th, I swear they were faster when they sponsored Lance), so look for a review in the coming days. Also, if rumors are to be believed, the long-awaited and completely non-controversial The History of Webcomics may be dropping in the next day or so; that one will probably take a bit longer. And today, it&#8217;s City Limits, the latest webcomics-artists-anthology, this one edited by George Rohac and Katy Ullman. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Uncategorized   So the fine men and women of the United States Postal Service finally got me my copy of Howard Tayler&#8217;s first Schlock Mercenary book today (postmarked the 15th, I swear they were faster when they sponsored Lance), so look for a review in the coming days. Also, if rumors are to be believed, the long-awaited and completely non-controversial The History of Webcomics may be dropping in the next day or so; that one will probably take a bit longer. And today, it&#8217;s City Limits, the latest webcomics-artists-anthology, this one edited by George Rohac and Katy Ullman. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: La Casa Comics &#187; Archive &#187; 055: Guest Week #3 by Tim Bard</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/03/02/166/comment-page-2/#comment-1122</link>
		<dc:creator>La Casa Comics &#187; Archive &#187; 055: Guest Week #3 by Tim Bard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [p.p.s]Gary from Fleen.com chimes in about the History of Webcomics book, and mostly about Kurtz&#8217;s response to it. I&#8217;m not particularly fond of Fleen, and this post, in particular, doesn&#8217;t really offer much. So why did I link it? I guess I just like to share. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] [p.p.s]Gary from Fleen.com chimes in about the History of Webcomics book, and mostly about Kurtz&#8217;s response to it. I&#8217;m not particularly fond of Fleen, and this post, in particular, doesn&#8217;t really offer much. So why did I link it? I guess I just like to share. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: La Casa Comics &#187; Archive &#187; 055: My History of Webcomics</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/03/02/166/comment-page-1/#comment-1073</link>
		<dc:creator>La Casa Comics &#187; Archive &#187; 055: My History of Webcomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [p.p.s]Gary from Fleen.com chimes in about the History of Webcomics book, and mostly about Kurtz&#8217;s response to it. I&#8217;m not particularly fond of Fleen, and this post, in particular, doesn&#8217;t really offer much. So why did I link it? I guess I just like to share. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] [p.p.s]Gary from Fleen.com chimes in about the History of Webcomics book, and mostly about Kurtz&#8217;s response to it. I&#8217;m not particularly fond of Fleen, and this post, in particular, doesn&#8217;t really offer much. So why did I link it? I guess I just like to share. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: L Rickelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>L Rickelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief.

I usually stay far away from threads.  It&#039;s aggravating when my favorite authors are slandered, and even more so when my favorite authors leave their literary talent at the door and start arguing like five-year-olds.

I&#039;m nobody.  I haven&#039;t written a webcomic.  I am just a fan.  That said, I was excited when I stumbled across the news of Campbell&#039;s book.  Sounds interesting!  About time someone wrote a book about it!

Will it be accurate or compelling or just?  I certainly won&#039;t know until I read it!  My only point is... I will read it.  And if I find parts of it lacking, I probably won&#039;t label them &quot;self-masturbatory.&quot;

Now, it&#039;s a damn shame that authors and the people who write about them always have to fight.  Remember, histories are NECESSARILY subjective.  Which is why any public library will hold many, many, many history books written by many, many, many different people.

I hope that Campbell&#039;s book is followed by many others.  I applaud him for taking this risk.  Every other history written after this will critique him because he is the first.  Webcomics are worth writing about.  Attempting to judge their influence is a worthwhile discussion.  I&#039;m glad that someone is willing to take the discussion out of the bastardized syntax of the forums and into publication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief.</p>
<p>I usually stay far away from threads.  It&#8217;s aggravating when my favorite authors are slandered, and even more so when my favorite authors leave their literary talent at the door and start arguing like five-year-olds.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m nobody.  I haven&#8217;t written a webcomic.  I am just a fan.  That said, I was excited when I stumbled across the news of Campbell&#8217;s book.  Sounds interesting!  About time someone wrote a book about it!</p>
<p>Will it be accurate or compelling or just?  I certainly won&#8217;t know until I read it!  My only point is&#8230; I will read it.  And if I find parts of it lacking, I probably won&#8217;t label them &#8220;self-masturbatory.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, it&#8217;s a damn shame that authors and the people who write about them always have to fight.  Remember, histories are NECESSARILY subjective.  Which is why any public library will hold many, many, many history books written by many, many, many different people.</p>
<p>I hope that Campbell&#8217;s book is followed by many others.  I applaud him for taking this risk.  Every other history written after this will critique him because he is the first.  Webcomics are worth writing about.  Attempting to judge their influence is a worthwhile discussion.  I&#8217;m glad that someone is willing to take the discussion out of the bastardized syntax of the forums and into publication.</p>
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		<title>By: T Campbell</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/03/02/166/comment-page-1/#comment-961</link>
		<dc:creator>T Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 03:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worth adding that Jon and I have settled our important differences offline since the fiery exchange above. Far as I&#039;m concerned, all&#039;s well that ends well there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth adding that Jon and I have settled our important differences offline since the fiery exchange above. Far as I&#8217;m concerned, all&#8217;s well that ends well there.</p>
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