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	<title>Comments on: You Have No Idea How Hesitant I Am To Bring This Up</title>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Requiscat In Pass</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/#comment-51644</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Requiscat In Pass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Or maybe you hadn&#8217;t; at the time of writing, the Bitpass home page featured nothing in the News section more recent than last October. With Bitpass going the way of the non-avian dinosaurs, that leaves IndieKarma to process small payments in a (semi-) transparent way. Since IndieKarma has, as of this writing, managed to sign up a total of 1140 people (despite the promise of one free dollar of credit to the first 5000 accounts) since founding last May, don&#8217;t expect micropayments to suddenly rise from the ashes like a phoenix. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Or maybe you hadn&#8217;t; at the time of writing, the Bitpass home page featured nothing in the News section more recent than last October. With Bitpass going the way of the non-avian dinosaurs, that leaves IndieKarma to process small payments in a (semi-) transparent way. Since IndieKarma has, as of this writing, managed to sign up a total of 1140 people (despite the promise of one free dollar of credit to the first 5000 accounts) since founding last May, don&#8217;t expect micropayments to suddenly rise from the ashes like a phoenix. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; IndieKarma &#8212; So, It&#8217;s Been A Month</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/#comment-4766</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; IndieKarma &#8212; So, It&#8217;s Been A Month</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Uncategorized   This page wrote about what might (or might not) be the ultimate triumph of no-hassle micropayments; we promised at that time to keep an eye on the service, and so we&#8217;re briefly revisiting IndieKarma today. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Uncategorized   This page wrote about what might (or might not) be the ultimate triumph of no-hassle micropayments; we promised at that time to keep an eye on the service, and so we&#8217;re briefly revisiting IndieKarma today. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/#comment-2028</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 18:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Already hacked. I personally think indieKarma is a pretty cool idea. But if you find the reminders annoying, all you have to do is get Firefox (if you don't have it already), install the Adblock plugin, and block the indieKarma script.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Already hacked. I personally think indieKarma is a pretty cool idea. But if you find the reminders annoying, all you have to do is get Firefox (if you don&#8217;t have it already), install the Adblock plugin, and block the indieKarma script.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Zabel</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/#comment-2007</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Zabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 16:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for covering this, Gary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for covering this, Gary.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen &#187; Interview With The Micropayer</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/#comment-2006</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen &#187; Interview With The Micropayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 16:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s the interview that we promised yesterday regarding IndieKarma, the new kid on the micropayments block. With any luck, some of the concerns in yesterday&#8217;s comments section may be addressed here by IndieKarma honcho Brad Patterson, and we&#8217;ll have analysis on IndieKarma&#8217;s service tomorrow. Play nice, kids!  Fleen: Thanks for taking the time to talk to us, Brad. For starters, what&#8217;s your title at IndieKarma? Patterson: I&#8217;m the founder, and I run the show on day-to-day basis. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here&#8217;s the interview that we promised yesterday regarding IndieKarma, the new kid on the micropayments block. With any luck, some of the concerns in yesterday&#8217;s comments section may be addressed here by IndieKarma honcho Brad Patterson, and we&#8217;ll have analysis on IndieKarma&#8217;s service tomorrow. Play nice, kids!  Fleen: Thanks for taking the time to talk to us, Brad. For starters, what&#8217;s your title at IndieKarma? Patterson: I&#8217;m the founder, and I run the show on day-to-day basis. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Buchwald</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/#comment-2005</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Buchwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 15:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am highly intrigued, even if I'm still totally skeptical that money will really be made from this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am highly intrigued, even if I&#8217;m still totally skeptical that money will really be made from this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lowrey</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/#comment-2000</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lowrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 04:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;i&gt;heart&lt;/i&gt; automatic, silent deductions.

It's like allowing all the bums on the street to pull money from my pants - but without the ancilliary free gropage of my crotch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <i>heart</i> automatic, silent deductions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like allowing all the bums on the street to pull money from my pants - but without the ancilliary free gropage of my crotch.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Coffman</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/#comment-1999</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Coffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 02:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad contacted me last week about this, and it is interesting--- The only thing I don't like is the honor system of signing up, and the penny a page thing might need some tweaking ( i brought this up to him via e-mail ) -- like if someone visited my archive and read through 20 comics, it would cost them 20 cents? Nah-- he did mention something about a time delay for the visit or something I think (cant remember)

For this to really work for webcomics, you'd need a solid, SOLID list of webcomics willing to sign up, (preferably comics that weren't complete crap) and have them all listed somewhere on the INdie Karma site in maybe a "comics" section that would encourage outside visitors and subscribers to indieclick to come visit your site through the network. 

Only problem... it feels like the honor system. And given a choice between free surfing and signing up for anything, even a penny, statistics have shown the majority of readers would just cruise through free.

Someone on my forums actually said they could see possible security holes in such a system and asked me to relay to Brad if they wanted someone to try to test hack their system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad contacted me last week about this, and it is interesting&#8212; The only thing I don&#8217;t like is the honor system of signing up, and the penny a page thing might need some tweaking ( i brought this up to him via e-mail ) &#8212; like if someone visited my archive and read through 20 comics, it would cost them 20 cents? Nah&#8211; he did mention something about a time delay for the visit or something I think (cant remember)</p>
<p>For this to really work for webcomics, you&#8217;d need a solid, SOLID list of webcomics willing to sign up, (preferably comics that weren&#8217;t complete crap) and have them all listed somewhere on the INdie Karma site in maybe a &#8220;comics&#8221; section that would encourage outside visitors and subscribers to indieclick to come visit your site through the network. </p>
<p>Only problem&#8230; it feels like the honor system. And given a choice between free surfing and signing up for anything, even a penny, statistics have shown the majority of readers would just cruise through free.</p>
<p>Someone on my forums actually said they could see possible security holes in such a system and asked me to relay to Brad if they wanted someone to try to test hack their system.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher B. Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/#comment-1998</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher B. Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 01:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does IndieKarma also obscure content until you set up an account?

It sounds like an interesting idea. That's the only comment I can make right at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does IndieKarma also obscure content until you set up an account?</p>
<p>It sounds like an interesting idea. That&#8217;s the only comment I can make right at the moment.</p>
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