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	<title>Comments on: You Have No Idea How Hesitant I Am To Bring This Up</title>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Requiscat In Pass</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/comment-page-1/#comment-51644</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; Requiscat In Pass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Or maybe you hadn&#8217;t; at the time of writing, the Bitpass home page featured nothing in the News section more recent than last October. With Bitpass going the way of the non-avian dinosaurs, that leaves IndieKarma to process small payments in a (semi-) transparent way. Since IndieKarma has, as of this writing, managed to sign up a total of 1140 people (despite the promise of one free dollar of credit to the first 5000 accounts) since founding last May, don&#8217;t expect micropayments to suddenly rise from the ashes like a phoenix. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Or maybe you hadn&#8217;t; at the time of writing, the Bitpass home page featured nothing in the News section more recent than last October. With Bitpass going the way of the non-avian dinosaurs, that leaves IndieKarma to process small payments in a (semi-) transparent way. Since IndieKarma has, as of this writing, managed to sign up a total of 1140 people (despite the promise of one free dollar of credit to the first 5000 accounts) since founding last May, don&#8217;t expect micropayments to suddenly rise from the ashes like a phoenix. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; IndieKarma &#8212; So, It&#8217;s Been A Month</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/comment-page-1/#comment-4766</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Written by bitter, haggard wordbeasts &#187; IndieKarma &#8212; So, It&#8217;s Been A Month</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Uncategorized   This page wrote about what might (or might not) be the ultimate triumph of no-hassle micropayments; we promised at that time to keep an eye on the service, and so we&#8217;re briefly revisiting IndieKarma today. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Uncategorized   This page wrote about what might (or might not) be the ultimate triumph of no-hassle micropayments; we promised at that time to keep an eye on the service, and so we&#8217;re briefly revisiting IndieKarma today. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 18:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Already hacked. I personally think indieKarma is a pretty cool idea. But if you find the reminders annoying, all you have to do is get Firefox (if you don&#039;t have it already), install the Adblock plugin, and block the indieKarma script.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Already hacked. I personally think indieKarma is a pretty cool idea. But if you find the reminders annoying, all you have to do is get Firefox (if you don&#8217;t have it already), install the Adblock plugin, and block the indieKarma script.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Zabel</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2007</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Zabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 16:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for covering this, Gary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for covering this, Gary.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen &#187; Interview With The Micropayer</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2006</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen &#187; Interview With The Micropayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 16:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s the interview that we promised yesterday regarding IndieKarma, the new kid on the micropayments block. With any luck, some of the concerns in yesterday&#8217;s comments section may be addressed here by IndieKarma honcho Brad Patterson, and we&#8217;ll have analysis on IndieKarma&#8217;s service tomorrow. Play nice, kids!  Fleen: Thanks for taking the time to talk to us, Brad. For starters, what&#8217;s your title at IndieKarma? Patterson: I&#8217;m the founder, and I run the show on day-to-day basis. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here&#8217;s the interview that we promised yesterday regarding IndieKarma, the new kid on the micropayments block. With any luck, some of the concerns in yesterday&#8217;s comments section may be addressed here by IndieKarma honcho Brad Patterson, and we&#8217;ll have analysis on IndieKarma&#8217;s service tomorrow. Play nice, kids!  Fleen: Thanks for taking the time to talk to us, Brad. For starters, what&#8217;s your title at IndieKarma? Patterson: I&#8217;m the founder, and I run the show on day-to-day basis. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Buchwald</title>
		<link>http://www.fleen.com/archives/2006/05/09/you-have-no-idea-how-hesitant-i-am-to-bring-this-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2005</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Buchwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 15:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am highly intrigued, even if I&#039;m still totally skeptical that money will really be made from this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am highly intrigued, even if I&#8217;m still totally skeptical that money will really be made from this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lowrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Lowrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 04:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;i&gt;heart&lt;/i&gt; automatic, silent deductions.

It&#039;s like allowing all the bums on the street to pull money from my pants - but without the ancilliary free gropage of my crotch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <i>heart</i> automatic, silent deductions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like allowing all the bums on the street to pull money from my pants &#8211; but without the ancilliary free gropage of my crotch.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Coffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Coffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 02:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad contacted me last week about this, and it is interesting--- The only thing I don&#039;t like is the honor system of signing up, and the penny a page thing might need some tweaking ( i brought this up to him via e-mail ) -- like if someone visited my archive and read through 20 comics, it would cost them 20 cents? Nah-- he did mention something about a time delay for the visit or something I think (cant remember)

For this to really work for webcomics, you&#039;d need a solid, SOLID list of webcomics willing to sign up, (preferably comics that weren&#039;t complete crap) and have them all listed somewhere on the INdie Karma site in maybe a &quot;comics&quot; section that would encourage outside visitors and subscribers to indieclick to come visit your site through the network. 

Only problem... it feels like the honor system. And given a choice between free surfing and signing up for anything, even a penny, statistics have shown the majority of readers would just cruise through free.

Someone on my forums actually said they could see possible security holes in such a system and asked me to relay to Brad if they wanted someone to try to test hack their system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad contacted me last week about this, and it is interesting&#8212; The only thing I don&#8217;t like is the honor system of signing up, and the penny a page thing might need some tweaking ( i brought this up to him via e-mail ) &#8212; like if someone visited my archive and read through 20 comics, it would cost them 20 cents? Nah&#8211; he did mention something about a time delay for the visit or something I think (cant remember)</p>
<p>For this to really work for webcomics, you&#8217;d need a solid, SOLID list of webcomics willing to sign up, (preferably comics that weren&#8217;t complete crap) and have them all listed somewhere on the INdie Karma site in maybe a &#8220;comics&#8221; section that would encourage outside visitors and subscribers to indieclick to come visit your site through the network. </p>
<p>Only problem&#8230; it feels like the honor system. And given a choice between free surfing and signing up for anything, even a penny, statistics have shown the majority of readers would just cruise through free.</p>
<p>Someone on my forums actually said they could see possible security holes in such a system and asked me to relay to Brad if they wanted someone to try to test hack their system.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher B. Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher B. Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 01:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does IndieKarma also obscure content until you set up an account?

It sounds like an interesting idea. That&#039;s the only comment I can make right at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does IndieKarma also obscure content until you set up an account?</p>
<p>It sounds like an interesting idea. That&#8217;s the only comment I can make right at the moment.</p>
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