Comments on: Posted Verbatim http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/ the webcomics blog about webcomics Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:53:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » Apr. 27, 2007: No, I’m Spartacus! http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/comment-page-1/#comment-78576 Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » Apr. 27, 2007: No, I’m Spartacus! Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:50:59 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/#comment-78576 [...] …the massive coverage and linkage has reached Google. Above is an excerpt from the first page of results that are returned when you enter the quoted phrase “art thief” into the popular search engine. Equally dicey links likewise come up when you enter the phrase “Todd Goldman” into Google’s front-page form. Gosh, steal a cartoon, slander the victim as a pedophile without the slightest shred of evidence when you get caught, and then confess to the deed — after which, begin siccing lawyers on the people who notice — and you’ll find yourself turned into the center of attention for all the wrong reasons. Who knew? Not Todd Goldman, obviously. [...] [...] …the massive coverage and linkage has reached Google. Above is an excerpt from the first page of results that are returned when you enter the quoted phrase “art thief” into the popular search engine. Equally dicey links likewise come up when you enter the phrase “Todd Goldman” into Google’s front-page form. Gosh, steal a cartoon, slander the victim as a pedophile without the slightest shred of evidence when you get caught, and then confess to the deed — after which, begin siccing lawyers on the people who notice — and you’ll find yourself turned into the center of attention for all the wrong reasons. Who knew? Not Todd Goldman, obviously. [...]

]]> By: zanotam http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/comment-page-1/#comment-78153 zanotam Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:08:11 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/#comment-78153 Dude if this is real I'll be so happy! he deserves for it to be real, plus since he FOUND this stuff doesn't that make HIM a pedophile... Dude if this is real I’ll be so happy! he deserves for it to be real, plus since he FOUND this stuff doesn’t that make HIM a pedophile…

]]> By: 79soul » Blog Archive » Blatant Assholery (if you can’t stand the heat…) http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/comment-page-1/#comment-78043 79soul » Blog Archive » Blatant Assholery (if you can’t stand the heat…) Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:00:04 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/#comment-78043 [...] There was a recent, shall we say, hubub over Todd Goldman’s company David and Goliath Tees. It would seem that certain paintings by Mr. Goldman bear more than a superficial resemblence to works by other ar-teests (in other words, people are accusing him of being a thieving bastard). This, as you might imagine, has not gone over well with Goldman, and he crafted an intelligent, well-reasoned, calm response that politely and respectfully refuted the accusations levied against him. [...] [...] There was a recent, shall we say, hubub over Todd Goldman’s company David and Goliath Tees. It would seem that certain paintings by Mr. Goldman bear more than a superficial resemblence to works by other ar-teests (in other words, people are accusing him of being a thieving bastard). This, as you might imagine, has not gone over well with Goldman, and he crafted an intelligent, well-reasoned, calm response that politely and respectfully refuted the accusations levied against him. [...]

]]> By: Kilroy http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/comment-page-1/#comment-77982 Kilroy Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:35:40 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/#comment-77982 BG Porter wrote: "2) I’m sure that Roadrunner could tell the proper authorities who was using the originating IP address of (252-246.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com [72.187.246.252]) Phone listings show two Todd Goldman entries in shouting distance of Clearwater; wonder if RR is the cable modem ISP in Clearwater (it’s close to tampa, but I assume that cable franchises in FL are town by town like they are here…)" Roadrunner Tampa Bay covers no less than five counties. I live in Tampa, so I'd love to meet the self-righteous asshat that sent the email and ask them what their fucking problem is... BG Porter wrote:

“2) I’m sure that Roadrunner could tell the proper authorities who was using the originating IP address of (252-246.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com [72.187.246.252]) Phone listings show two Todd Goldman entries in shouting distance of Clearwater; wonder if RR is the cable modem ISP in Clearwater (it’s close to tampa, but I assume that cable franchises in FL are town by town like they are here…)”

Roadrunner Tampa Bay covers no less than five counties. I live in Tampa, so I’d love to meet the self-righteous asshat that sent the email and ask them what their fucking problem is…

]]> By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » Apr. 23, 2007: Please govern yourself accordingly http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/comment-page-1/#comment-77440 Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » Apr. 23, 2007: Please govern yourself accordingly Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:28:29 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/#comment-77440 [...] Please note that at no point in the above message does the person purporting to represent Goldman ever state which “articles” are to be considered actionable libel — apparently, Mr. Tyrrell is supposed to guess. One would think that after getting nailed on stealing an image from cartoonist Dave Kelly, then accusing him (without evidence) of being a pedophile before finally confessing to the deed, Goldman would want to lay low for a few months and let the whole thing blow over; instead, this latest action promises to create a second round of controversy which will likely further drag Goldman’s name through the mud. As before, let me note that it’s possible for this latest bout of idiocy to be the work of some malicious third party, attempting to do Goldman further damage by sending out fraudulent emails. If it isn’t, however, one has to conclude that Goldman and/or his attorney has fundamentally misjudged how this whole Internet thing works. (Ever heard of “Whack-a-Mole”? Here’s an example.) Assuming that this email was sent at Goldman’s behest, does he really think that suing a few people is going to make the Kelly incident go away? If he does, I don’t want any of whatever it is he’s smoking — no buzz is worth that kind of stupid. [...] [...] Please note that at no point in the above message does the person purporting to represent Goldman ever state which “articles” are to be considered actionable libel — apparently, Mr. Tyrrell is supposed to guess. One would think that after getting nailed on stealing an image from cartoonist Dave Kelly, then accusing him (without evidence) of being a pedophile before finally confessing to the deed, Goldman would want to lay low for a few months and let the whole thing blow over; instead, this latest action promises to create a second round of controversy which will likely further drag Goldman’s name through the mud. As before, let me note that it’s possible for this latest bout of idiocy to be the work of some malicious third party, attempting to do Goldman further damage by sending out fraudulent emails. If it isn’t, however, one has to conclude that Goldman and/or his attorney has fundamentally misjudged how this whole Internet thing works. (Ever heard of “Whack-a-Mole”? Here’s an example.) Assuming that this email was sent at Goldman’s behest, does he really think that suing a few people is going to make the Kelly incident go away? If he does, I don’t want any of whatever it is he’s smoking — no buzz is worth that kind of stupid. [...]

]]> By: Todd Goliath http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/comment-page-1/#comment-75542 Todd Goliath Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:25:56 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/#comment-75542 My God, enough already, so I stole a few paintings and raped Mother Teresa, and snorted coke off dead babies asses, for chrissakes! It's not like I'm Hitler or anything?!? Should I start writing out checks to every one of you talentless, jealous hacks that didn't have the gumption "making art by committee"? Sorry for your struggles and boxes of Ramen noodles, can't wait to see the TV series! I love you all this much! Send love into the universe, baby! My God, enough already, so I stole a few paintings and raped Mother Teresa, and snorted coke off dead babies asses, for chrissakes! It’s not like I’m Hitler or anything?!?

Should I start writing out checks to every one of you talentless, jealous hacks that didn’t have the gumption “making art by committee”? Sorry for your struggles and boxes of Ramen noodles, can’t wait to see the TV series!

I love you all this much!

Send love into the universe, baby!

]]> By: skippy http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/comment-page-1/#comment-74341 skippy Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:34:01 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/#comment-74341 Todd Goldman couldn't have written that email. I have no doubt that he's guilty of plagiarism, but what he's stated has made sense so far: He's not a "web guy." He's never heard of Dave Kelly, who is popular only on the web, and since he and his company failed to research the source of the pic properly, he does take responsibility for plagiarism. However, again, he's NOT familiar with the web, and you have to be damned familiar with Dave Kelly to know that he's an "infantilist furry," (which is actually a more polite way to put it) or whatever he happens to be into. The truth is that the URL he gave is prolific on SomethingAwful, along with Dave Kelly's name, and SomethingAwful is a damn good place to find goons who know how to spoof email sources. It fits better than the accusation that a successful businessman (as much of a douche as he is) went to the trouble to research all the dirt on Shmorky and unleash it at huge risk of a libel suit--especially after making a public apology!! -That- would have been senseless. What Shmorky does behind closed windows is his own damn business, and nobody else's. This email is an obvious hoax and should simply be ignored. The only issue that has been raised was the first one, that Dave Kelly's been plagiarized by Todd Goldman. Todd Goldman couldn’t have written that email. I have no doubt that he’s guilty of plagiarism, but what he’s stated has made sense so far: He’s not a “web guy.” He’s never heard of Dave Kelly, who is popular only on the web, and since he and his company failed to research the source of the pic properly, he does take responsibility for plagiarism. However, again, he’s NOT familiar with the web, and you have to be damned familiar with Dave Kelly to know that he’s an “infantilist furry,” (which is actually a more polite way to put it) or whatever he happens to be into.

The truth is that the URL he gave is prolific on SomethingAwful, along with Dave Kelly’s name, and SomethingAwful is a damn good place to find goons who know how to spoof email sources. It fits better than the accusation that a successful businessman (as much of a douche as he is) went to the trouble to research all the dirt on Shmorky and unleash it at huge risk of a libel suit–especially after making a public apology!! -That- would have been senseless.

What Shmorky does behind closed windows is his own damn business, and nobody else’s. This email is an obvious hoax and should simply be ignored. The only issue that has been raised was the first one, that Dave Kelly’s been plagiarized by Todd Goldman.

]]> By: Joe http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/comment-page-1/#comment-74325 Joe Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:25:53 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/#comment-74325 I don't know anything about this whole thing other than what I've read on two pages, so I don't have much of an opinion, but I would like to say that I love all of you; people like you are the reason I tell people, "never fuck with geeks." Watching you trace IPs and shit is beautiful. I love all of you. I don’t know anything about this whole thing other than what I’ve read on two pages, so I don’t have much of an opinion, but I would like to say that I love all of you; people like you are the reason I tell people, “never fuck with geeks.” Watching you trace IPs and shit is beautiful. I love all of you.

]]> By: art http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/comment-page-1/#comment-74105 art Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:52:06 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/#comment-74105 I think he might be a scientologist. He lives in clearwater and calls anyone who upsets him a pedophile. Typical scientologist tactics. http://www.xenutv.com/originals/4th.htm I think he might be a scientologist. He lives in clearwater and calls anyone who upsets him a pedophile. Typical scientologist tactics.
http://www.xenutv.com/originals/4th.htm

]]> By: Spectre Collie » Blog Archive » A Million Little Pieces http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/comment-page-1/#comment-73694 Spectre Collie » Blog Archive » A Million Little Pieces Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:37:17 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/04/10/posted-verbatim/#comment-73694 [...] The T-Shirt guy fiasco is even stupider. Here’s a compilation of thefts and alleged thefts. What bears repeating: this is an intellectual property argument over novelty tees, and not even particularly clever ones. And the guy has made an obscene amount of money selling them. And his defense, at least at the moment, is that he “unintentionally” took the design from a submission and didn’t research it enough. Note that the guy isn’t just talentless and dishonest; he’s a total douchebag. But back up a step to really appreciate his “defense:” the guy takes drawings “submitted” by other people, paints them on a canvas with his name on it, and charges thousands of dollars for them. And they sell. I can’t help feeling like we’re all victims in this scenario. [...] [...] The T-Shirt guy fiasco is even stupider. Here’s a compilation of thefts and alleged thefts. What bears repeating: this is an intellectual property argument over novelty tees, and not even particularly clever ones. And the guy has made an obscene amount of money selling them. And his defense, at least at the moment, is that he “unintentionally” took the design from a submission and didn’t research it enough. Note that the guy isn’t just talentless and dishonest; he’s a total douchebag. But back up a step to really appreciate his “defense:” the guy takes drawings “submitted” by other people, paints them on a canvas with his name on it, and charges thousands of dollars for them. And they sell. I can’t help feeling like we’re all victims in this scenario. [...]

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