Comments on: Good Days And Bad http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/ the webcomics blog about webcomics Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:19:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: TalkAboutComics Blog » Gary Tyrell on Zuda … But Wait … http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-104932 TalkAboutComics Blog » Gary Tyrell on Zuda … But Wait … Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:51:55 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-104932 [...] Tyrell of Fleen thinks that DJ Coffman, and only DJ Coffman, has a right to an opinion about Platinum Studio’s intellectua.... After all, Tyrell argues, DJ is the only person who has won that contest, and the only one who has [...] [...] Tyrell of Fleen thinks that DJ Coffman, and only DJ Coffman, has a right to an opinion about Platinum Studio’s intellectua…. After all, Tyrell argues, DJ is the only person who has won that contest, and the only one who has [...]

]]> By: Josh Carrollhach http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81612 Josh Carrollhach Tue, 08 May 2007 15:47:12 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81612 Well, what was intended to be a cautionary tale has become a "let's disparage Platinum Comics" free-for-all. While I still believe ardently in creators retaining their rights (look at Stan Lee's position versus, say, Jerry Siegel's... or Bob Kane's, for that matter) it was never my intention to trash Platinum. Personally, I would rather own my creations because I've seen what kinds of story ideas can come from media giants. Even though it doesn't always happen, it easily could. Oswald the Rabbit, Ren and Stimpy, Superman, The Odd Couple.... the list of famous rights-management losses goes on and on. I would rather not put my stubborn old self through the wringer like that because I would likely act like Bill Watterson and age a few extra years. That said, you don't see much of my work in the mainstream (at least not yet). But D.J has a point, and he's concerned that this hubbub might scare away artists who could use a leg up: Well, what was intended to be a cautionary tale has become a “let’s disparage Platinum Comics” free-for-all. While I still believe ardently in creators retaining their rights (look at Stan Lee’s position versus, say, Jerry Siegel’s… or Bob Kane’s, for that matter) it was never my intention to trash Platinum.
Personally, I would rather own my creations because I’ve seen what kinds of story ideas can come from media giants. Even though it doesn’t always happen, it easily could. Oswald the Rabbit, Ren and Stimpy, Superman, The Odd Couple…. the list of famous rights-management losses goes on and on. I would rather not put my stubborn old self through the wringer like that because I would likely act like Bill Watterson and age a few extra years. That said, you don’t see much of my work in the mainstream (at least not yet). But D.J has a point, and he’s concerned that this hubbub might scare away artists who could use a leg up:

]]> By: DJ Coffman http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81573 DJ Coffman Tue, 08 May 2007 12:58:18 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81573 Since the glorious shitmongers at Journalista found it proper to link to this since they link to anything they think is bad about Platinum, I thought I'd post some other quotes by this dude after he had some reflection or was informed: "Yeah, that was an overblown (dare I say "cartoonish?" ) way of expressing that. Also, the Cuppa Coffee contest kept your submission regardless of whether they used it or not. That's a big difference. I probably could benefit from a bit of reflection before firing off emails I can't get back, eh " and "I absolutely concede DJ points in this particular case. " That's more like it! Since the glorious shitmongers at Journalista found it proper to link to this since they link to anything they think is bad about Platinum, I thought I’d post some other quotes by this dude after he had some reflection or was informed:

“Yeah, that was an overblown (dare I say “cartoonish?” ) way of expressing that. Also, the Cuppa Coffee contest kept your submission regardless of whether they used it or not. That’s a big difference.

I probably could benefit from a bit of reflection before firing off emails I can’t get back, eh ”

and

“I absolutely concede DJ points in this particular case. ”

That’s more like it!

]]> By: DJ Coffman http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81571 DJ Coffman Tue, 08 May 2007 12:48:41 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81571 Uh-Huh. Uh-Huh.

]]> By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » May 8, 2007: All quiet in Dullsville http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81512 Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » May 8, 2007: All quiet in Dullsville Tue, 08 May 2007 07:34:49 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81512 [...] Josh Carrollhach explains why Platinum Studios’ latest contest for cartoonists is a raw deal. (Link via Gary Tyrrell.) [...] [...] Josh Carrollhach explains why Platinum Studios’ latest contest for cartoonists is a raw deal. (Link via Gary Tyrrell.) [...]

]]> By: William G http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81431 William G Tue, 08 May 2007 02:35:24 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81431 You know... I have a number of half-assed ideas that I've never used because they've never passed my personal standards. Maybe I should throw a few to Platinum? They don't seem too picky, and I could use a few extra bucks. You know… I have a number of half-assed ideas that I’ve never used because they’ve never passed my personal standards.

Maybe I should throw a few to Platinum? They don’t seem too picky, and I could use a few extra bucks.

]]> By: DJ Coffman http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81336 DJ Coffman Mon, 07 May 2007 19:03:59 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81336 Geez, what is that guys deal with worrying about the contest so much as to alert newsblogs. Sound the drama horns! Yeah, for the record, I'm more than satisfied. The worries of having something stolen away from you are rendered moot if you read the actual contracts that you'd sign if you're the winner. Again though, I guess it's not for everyone, and you wouldn't sign away your "baby" to them, which makes me a good example here, because I'm happy to take other ideas to them, but I'd likely never sell anything like my baby "Yirmumah" to them. I guess if you only have ONE baby, this is definitely not for you. Geez, what is that guys deal with worrying about the contest so much as to alert newsblogs. Sound the drama horns!

Yeah, for the record, I’m more than satisfied. The worries of having something stolen away from you are rendered moot if you read the actual contracts that you’d sign if you’re the winner.

Again though, I guess it’s not for everyone, and you wouldn’t sign away your “baby” to them, which makes me a good example here, because I’m happy to take other ideas to them, but I’d likely never sell anything like my baby “Yirmumah” to them.

I guess if you only have ONE baby, this is definitely not for you.

]]> By: Christopher B. Wright http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81327 Christopher B. Wright Mon, 07 May 2007 18:00:33 +0000 http://www.fleen.com/archives/2007/05/07/good-days-and-bad/#comment-81327 You can't mention the outside world on the web. It's a perversion of the tubes. You can’t mention the outside world on the web. It’s a perversion of the tubes.

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