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		<title>By: Fleen: Home Of The Webcomics Action News Team! &#187; Story Time!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleen: Home Of The Webcomics Action News Team! &#187; Story Time!</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] the dreams of more than 600 aspirants [and now you know why David Malki ! is known to this day as The Dreamcrusher, children]), the illustrators obtained, and then &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Enjoy Our Semi-Abusive Opinion Mongering &#187; Wednesdays Aren&#8217;t Usually This Weird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleen: Enjoy Our Semi-Abusive Opinion Mongering &#187; Wednesdays Aren&#8217;t Usually This Weird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] include episodic animations, story-based videogames, as well as various near-advertorial content (not that we&#8217;ve seen that before) Will there continue to be a &#8220;longform story only&#8221; requirement that has prevented so [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] include episodic animations, story-based videogames, as well as various near-advertorial content (not that we&#8217;ve seen that before) Will there continue to be a &#8220;longform story only&#8221; requirement that has prevented so [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Enjoy Our Semi-Abusive Opinion Mongering &#187; Dammit, I Knew I Forgot Something Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleen: Enjoy Our Semi-Abusive Opinion Mongering &#187; Dammit, I Knew I Forgot Something Today</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] back to last year&#8217;s Eisner Award for Best Digital Comic, the backlash against Steve Purcell was, as far as I can see, motivated more by the extraordinarily [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] back to last year&#8217;s Eisner Award for Best Digital Comic, the backlash against Steve Purcell was, as far as I can see, motivated more by the extraordinarily [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Your Favorite Faux-Muckrakers Since 2005 &#187; Dear Recipient, You May Already Be A Winner!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleen: Your Favorite Faux-Muckrakers Since 2005 &#187; Dear Recipient, You May Already Be A Winner!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] original comics work posted online&#8221;, which should hopefully eliminate offerings that update like six pages in a year (read down, you&#8217;ll find [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 02:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking offense at Steve Purcell&#039;s remark as a sleight against webcomic authors sounds more like you looking for a fight than actually listening to what he said. Purcell&#039;s remark was clearly him being &lt;i&gt;self&lt;/i&gt;-deprecating, referring to the fact that he updates his webcomic next to never, and fans expect more than that... it wasn&#039;t intended to imply something about &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; authors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking offense at Steve Purcell&#8217;s remark as a sleight against webcomic authors sounds more like you looking for a fight than actually listening to what he said. Purcell&#8217;s remark was clearly him being <i>self</i>-deprecating, referring to the fact that he updates his webcomic next to never, and fans expect more than that&#8230; it wasn&#8217;t intended to imply something about <i>other</i> authors.</p>
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		<title>By: Spectre Collie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Glad that&#8217;s over</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spectre Collie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Glad that&#8217;s over</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 05:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reassuring to see that the internet is still working, and you&#8217;ll see embittered complaints about a funny, hand-painted original comic presented for free, complete with anonymous criticisms [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Kinyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kinyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Kinyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kinyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard makes excellent points, except that I would lay more blame on the nominating committee. &lt;em&gt;Sam &amp; Max&lt;/em&gt; is OK, but really should not have been in the running in the first place.

In re the typical judge, it&#039;s hard not to imagine something like the following internal monologue: &lt;em&gt;Oh crap, that category again. OK, I&#039;ll have a quick look...&lt;/em&gt; [ looks at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kiwisbybeat.com/minus.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Minus&lt;/a&gt; ] &lt;em&gt;Nice art, but look at that awful background. And the white-on-blue text is almost unreadable! What else?&lt;/em&gt; [ looks at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shootingwar.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shooting War&lt;/a&gt; ] &lt;em&gt;Too cluttered. I have no time for this. Isn&#039;t there anybody on this list I know? Hey, Sam &amp; Max! I loved those games! Let&#039;s have a look... But where are the word balloons? Oh, cool! OK, I&#039;ve seen enough, this gets my vote.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard makes excellent points, except that I would lay more blame on the nominating committee. <em>Sam &amp; Max</em> is OK, but really should not have been in the running in the first place.</p>
<p>In re the typical judge, it&#8217;s hard not to imagine something like the following internal monologue: <em>Oh crap, that category again. OK, I&#8217;ll have a quick look&#8230;</em> [ looks at <a href="http://www.kiwisbybeat.com/minus.html" rel="nofollow">Minus</a> ] <em>Nice art, but look at that awful background. And the white-on-blue text is almost unreadable! What else?</em> [ looks at <a href="http://www.shootingwar.com/" rel="nofollow">Shooting War</a> ] <em>Too cluttered. I have no time for this. Isn&#8217;t there anybody on this list I know? Hey, Sam &amp; Max! I loved those games! Let&#8217;s have a look&#8230; But where are the word balloons? Oh, cool! OK, I&#8217;ve seen enough, this gets my vote.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Howard Tayler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Tayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a lovely strip, yes, but &quot;deserved to win&quot; is made of more than that.

Or at least it should be. Guys like Gary who really KNOW from webcomics could pick a dozen strips off the tops of their heads that would have &quot;deserved&quot; the win more than Purcell&#039;s strip did.

The point, then, is that the judges do NOT know webcomics, and appear to have been wowed by the (admittedly cool) technological display for Sam and Max. Purcell is doing something that can only be done in the digital realm, displaying the dialog on mouse-over, but there are those of us who don&#039;t believe &quot;best Digital comic&quot; should be about technology. That would be like awarding other comics genres their prizes based on the quality of the paper.

I don&#039;t begrudge Steve the win. I do, however, take issue with his comment upon accepting the award. I agree with the anonymous &quot;webcomics lost&quot; statement Gary quoted above -- Steve&#039;s words make us all look like amateurs, and in that vein we webcartoonists lost. We lost the opportunity to be publicly recognized as the hard-working professionals we are. With one sentence Steve made us all look like lazy hacks. 

Fortunately, we can still give thanks for Eisner Award-losing Phil Foglio, who took it upon himself last year to have the floor planners put webcomics all in one place. Phil gets it in ways that Steve and the judges obviously do not, and professional webcartoonists benefitted greatly from his contribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a lovely strip, yes, but &#8220;deserved to win&#8221; is made of more than that.</p>
<p>Or at least it should be. Guys like Gary who really KNOW from webcomics could pick a dozen strips off the tops of their heads that would have &#8220;deserved&#8221; the win more than Purcell&#8217;s strip did.</p>
<p>The point, then, is that the judges do NOT know webcomics, and appear to have been wowed by the (admittedly cool) technological display for Sam and Max. Purcell is doing something that can only be done in the digital realm, displaying the dialog on mouse-over, but there are those of us who don&#8217;t believe &#8220;best Digital comic&#8221; should be about technology. That would be like awarding other comics genres their prizes based on the quality of the paper.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t begrudge Steve the win. I do, however, take issue with his comment upon accepting the award. I agree with the anonymous &#8220;webcomics lost&#8221; statement Gary quoted above &#8212; Steve&#8217;s words make us all look like amateurs, and in that vein we webcartoonists lost. We lost the opportunity to be publicly recognized as the hard-working professionals we are. With one sentence Steve made us all look like lazy hacks. </p>
<p>Fortunately, we can still give thanks for Eisner Award-losing Phil Foglio, who took it upon himself last year to have the floor planners put webcomics all in one place. Phil gets it in ways that Steve and the judges obviously do not, and professional webcartoonists benefitted greatly from his contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: hero</title>
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		<dc:creator>hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steve purcells comic was beautifully drawn and quite hilarious. It absolutely deserved to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steve purcells comic was beautifully drawn and quite hilarious. It absolutely deserved to win.</p>
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