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	<title>Comments on: Looks Like Yesterday Was Webcomics Day In Big Media</title>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jan. 6, 2009: Plenty of seats</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jan. 6, 2009: Plenty of seats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [Commentary] newsprint vs. pixels Link: Gary Tyrrell [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Whitey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whitey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree that comics are better in print, as long as we&#039;re not talking about NEWS print.  Newspaper strips don&#039;t look as nice as webcomics, but reading a collection of strips in a book is much easier on the eyes than reading a ton of strips online in one sitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree that comics are better in print, as long as we&#8217;re not talking about NEWS print.  Newspaper strips don&#8217;t look as nice as webcomics, but reading a collection of strips in a book is much easier on the eyes than reading a ton of strips online in one sitting.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or maybe you just got used to Dinosaur Comics so it doesn&#039;t seem as fresh as it did a few years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe you just got used to Dinosaur Comics so it doesn&#8217;t seem as fresh as it did a few years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: andrÃ©</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrÃ©</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also seems to me that a fair amount of webcomics (while maybe featuring &quot;edgier&quot; material) have settled artistically in ways similar to their newspaper counterparts, especially as the medium as a whole ages. It seems disingenuous to suggest that one medium is necessarily more creative than the other just because of a novel delivery system.

Dinosaur Comics is a good example. That comic was more interesting/challenging/exciting when it was in its first few years and still having serious fun with the medium/limitations. Now it&#039;s kind of degenerated into a tired sitcom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also seems to me that a fair amount of webcomics (while maybe featuring &#8220;edgier&#8221; material) have settled artistically in ways similar to their newspaper counterparts, especially as the medium as a whole ages. It seems disingenuous to suggest that one medium is necessarily more creative than the other just because of a novel delivery system.</p>
<p>Dinosaur Comics is a good example. That comic was more interesting/challenging/exciting when it was in its first few years and still having serious fun with the medium/limitations. Now it&#8217;s kind of degenerated into a tired sitcom.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is probably the first mention of webcomics that many of NPR?s audience will have heard&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Except for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94780668&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Achewood&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://comixtalk.com/ancient_news_npr_interview_with_pete_abrams&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sluggy Freelance&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/about/nextgen/internedition/spring08/blog/?p=961&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Erfworld&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/about/nextgen/internedition/spring08/blog/?p=731&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Questionable Content and Megatokyo and Cyanide &amp; Happiness&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know why everyone thinks NPR caters exclusively to conservative New England retirees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is probably the first mention of webcomics that many of NPR?s audience will have heard</p></blockquote>
<p>Except for <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94780668" rel="nofollow">Achewood</a> and <a href="http://comixtalk.com/ancient_news_npr_interview_with_pete_abrams" rel="nofollow">Sluggy Freelance</a> and <a href="http://www.npr.org/about/nextgen/internedition/spring08/blog/?p=961" rel="nofollow">Erfworld</a> and <a href="http://www.npr.org/about/nextgen/internedition/spring08/blog/?p=731" rel="nofollow">Questionable Content and Megatokyo and Cyanide &amp; Happiness</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why everyone thinks NPR caters exclusively to conservative New England retirees.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I would submit there is a greater potential to make a living with a few tens of thousands of dedicated readers, versus a million people that glance over â€œCathyâ€ only because itâ€™s in front of them, requires no effort to do so, and is an ingrained habit of decades.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To a certain extent this is demonstrably untrue, since Cathy rakes in buckets of money and the only cartoonists I know of who can afford to light piles of money on fire are the PA guys.

Currently the greatest potential to make a living is to have a wildly successful syndicated comic strip published in thousands of newspapers. This is still true, though maybe in four or five years it won&#039;t be.  Second up is to have a wildly successful comic strip on the web with enough readers to get decent paying banner ads and lots of book and t-shirt sales. Then comes everyone else.

But at present, it doesn&#039;t matter how ardent the fans are of newspaper comics because the cartoonists get paid for being printed in the newspaper whether the fans are rabid or not.  And you don&#039;t have to be rabid to buy swag (see Garfield merchandise).

None of this should be taken as a ringing endorsement of the syndication method of comic publishing or anything like that. I just don&#039;t think webcomics are quite on that level of success just yet, nor do I think syndication has failed completely. Not yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I would submit there is a greater potential to make a living with a few tens of thousands of dedicated readers, versus a million people that glance over â€œCathyâ€ only because itâ€™s in front of them, requires no effort to do so, and is an ingrained habit of decades.</p></blockquote>
<p>To a certain extent this is demonstrably untrue, since Cathy rakes in buckets of money and the only cartoonists I know of who can afford to light piles of money on fire are the PA guys.</p>
<p>Currently the greatest potential to make a living is to have a wildly successful syndicated comic strip published in thousands of newspapers. This is still true, though maybe in four or five years it won&#8217;t be.  Second up is to have a wildly successful comic strip on the web with enough readers to get decent paying banner ads and lots of book and t-shirt sales. Then comes everyone else.</p>
<p>But at present, it doesn&#8217;t matter how ardent the fans are of newspaper comics because the cartoonists get paid for being printed in the newspaper whether the fans are rabid or not.  And you don&#8217;t have to be rabid to buy swag (see Garfield merchandise).</p>
<p>None of this should be taken as a ringing endorsement of the syndication method of comic publishing or anything like that. I just don&#8217;t think webcomics are quite on that level of success just yet, nor do I think syndication has failed completely. Not yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Griffith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, I work for an NPR member station, and I religiously read PA, SP, QC, Schlock Mercenary...most of the sites on your &#039;A Good Start&#039; list, and recommend them to my friends.  I&#039;m not offended or outraged by any of them...unless they don&#039;t update, of course.  And I&#039;m not alone - I think the average NPR listener is actually more likely to be a webcomics reader than someone who listens to commercial radio and should be cultivated. 

Chris Onstad did a 7 minute interview with Scott Simon on Morning Edition back in October, so the genre is not unfamiliar to our audience.  

The problem of the Fruit Fucker is that it contains one of the words we&#039;re not allowed to say on the air...radio being a bit more regulated and constrained format than the Web.  

All I&#039;m saying, I guess, is that you shouldn&#039;t generalize.  Tastes differ, yes - but I&#039;d bet NPR will get more comments in favor of PA and webcomics than outrage.  Give the audience some credit..

Thanks.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, I work for an NPR member station, and I religiously read PA, SP, QC, Schlock Mercenary&#8230;most of the sites on your &#8216;A Good Start&#8217; list, and recommend them to my friends.  I&#8217;m not offended or outraged by any of them&#8230;unless they don&#8217;t update, of course.  And I&#8217;m not alone &#8211; I think the average NPR listener is actually more likely to be a webcomics reader than someone who listens to commercial radio and should be cultivated. </p>
<p>Chris Onstad did a 7 minute interview with Scott Simon on Morning Edition back in October, so the genre is not unfamiliar to our audience.  </p>
<p>The problem of the Fruit Fucker is that it contains one of the words we&#8217;re not allowed to say on the air&#8230;radio being a bit more regulated and constrained format than the Web.  </p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying, I guess, is that you shouldn&#8217;t generalize.  Tastes differ, yes &#8211; but I&#8217;d bet NPR will get more comments in favor of PA and webcomics than outrage.  Give the audience some credit..</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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