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	<title>Comments on: Can You Tell I&#8217;m Excited? &#8216;Cause I Totally Am</title>
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		<title>By: ZEITGEIST / Random Comics News Story Round-Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZEITGEIST / Random Comics News Story Round-Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the original Wizard of IO essay cracks me up. (thanks, everyone who sent it)  * I&#039;m with Gary Tyrrell (I think I&#039;m agreeing with him) that the thought of newspapers going to paid content is such a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the original Wizard of IO essay cracks me up. (thanks, everyone who sent it)  * I&#8217;m with Gary Tyrrell (I think I&#8217;m agreeing with him) that the thought of newspapers going to paid content is such a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Walters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 19:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will webcomics go all paid? I doubt it. There are way too many models currently in use which are funding financially self-sufficient webcomics. It&#039;s not even all about merchandising any more! A number (nowhere near comprehensive!) of examples of financing methods can be seen in this article: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bcis.pacificu.edu/journal/2009/04/article.php?id=62&quot; title=&quot;Author-Reader Relationships and Finances&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bcis.pacificu.edu/journal/2009/04/article.php?id=62&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will webcomics go all paid? I doubt it. There are way too many models currently in use which are funding financially self-sufficient webcomics. It&#8217;s not even all about merchandising any more! A number (nowhere near comprehensive!) of examples of financing methods can be seen in this article: <a href="http://bcis.pacificu.edu/journal/2009/04/article.php?id=62" title="Author-Reader Relationships and Finances" rel="nofollow">http://bcis.pacificu.edu/journal/2009/04/article.php?id=62</a></p>
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		<title>By: xerexes</title>
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		<dc:creator>xerexes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A really interesting article (worth reading) on how newspapers got into the mess they&#039;re in from legendary reporter Walter Pincus: 

http://www.cjr.org/essay/newspaper_narcissism_1.php?page=all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A really interesting article (worth reading) on how newspapers got into the mess they&#8217;re in from legendary reporter Walter Pincus: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cjr.org/essay/newspaper_narcissism_1.php?page=all" rel="nofollow">http://www.cjr.org/essay/newspaper_narcissism_1.php?page=all</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I&#039;m sorry, I go off on a huge tangent here...)

I don&#039;t understand the feeling that it&#039;s the internet vs. newspapers-- and why many people (especially in the webcomics community) seem to wait gleefully for print media&#039;s demise... I mean-- can we just get over it? They&#039;re different beasts. Newspaper comics suck, yeah... but that doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re going to suck forever, or that they&#039;ve always sucked, or that print isn&#039;t a viable medium (it is). And webcomics suck too, right? I&#039;m just as bored looking at Beetle Bailey as I am looking at QC or Dinosaur Comics...

I think newspapers moving to paid or subscription based services is, unfortunately, a necessary move... How else to pay for their (extremely useful) content? Blogs, after all, mostly comment on press releases and newspaper articles, and they conduct little original research/do only rudimentary investigation. Obviously, if newspapers collapsed, there would be a huge information vacuum... Taking any step to build a new sustainable system (whatever that may be) I think, is a right one. 

The system as a whole is just messed up right now. Google News makes a lot of money off newspaper content, for example, and they don&#039;t pay a dime for it. How is THAT sustainable? 

It&#039;s just a weird system in general. Is it true that big comics guys like Rowland and Allison make most of their money off of t-shirts? I think you have to expect things to change... I think the internet is still in its infancy, in that sense. Well. I don&#039;t know. Who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I&#8217;m sorry, I go off on a huge tangent here&#8230;)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand the feeling that it&#8217;s the internet vs. newspapers&#8211; and why many people (especially in the webcomics community) seem to wait gleefully for print media&#8217;s demise&#8230; I mean&#8211; can we just get over it? They&#8217;re different beasts. Newspaper comics suck, yeah&#8230; but that doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re going to suck forever, or that they&#8217;ve always sucked, or that print isn&#8217;t a viable medium (it is). And webcomics suck too, right? I&#8217;m just as bored looking at Beetle Bailey as I am looking at QC or Dinosaur Comics&#8230;</p>
<p>I think newspapers moving to paid or subscription based services is, unfortunately, a necessary move&#8230; How else to pay for their (extremely useful) content? Blogs, after all, mostly comment on press releases and newspaper articles, and they conduct little original research/do only rudimentary investigation. Obviously, if newspapers collapsed, there would be a huge information vacuum&#8230; Taking any step to build a new sustainable system (whatever that may be) I think, is a right one. </p>
<p>The system as a whole is just messed up right now. Google News makes a lot of money off newspaper content, for example, and they don&#8217;t pay a dime for it. How is THAT sustainable? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a weird system in general. Is it true that big comics guys like Rowland and Allison make most of their money off of t-shirts? I think you have to expect things to change&#8230; I think the internet is still in its infancy, in that sense. Well. I don&#8217;t know. Who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Bg Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bg Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon is right that it could only happen if the industry moved in lockstep and didn&#039;t need to worry about anti-trust issues. If 70%+ of a paper&#039;s content comes from wire services and that stuff is freely available, the horse is already out of the barn. 

And then what&#039;s left? George Will (or Maureen Dowd, take your pick) repeating talking points that are debunkable in a minute or two of googlage? Stories written in a strict pattern of setting every issue along partisan lines, no matter how irrelevant that might be? 

Sign me up for that. Send me the bill, sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon is right that it could only happen if the industry moved in lockstep and didn&#8217;t need to worry about anti-trust issues. If 70%+ of a paper&#8217;s content comes from wire services and that stuff is freely available, the horse is already out of the barn. </p>
<p>And then what&#8217;s left? George Will (or Maureen Dowd, take your pick) repeating talking points that are debunkable in a minute or two of googlage? Stories written in a strict pattern of setting every issue along partisan lines, no matter how irrelevant that might be? </p>
<p>Sign me up for that. Send me the bill, sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These media gezzers are still debating when/where/how/why to charge for the internet when that battle is already lost.  It&#039;s not going to happen.  It&#039;s like trying to make people charge their co-workers for gossip at the water cooler.  No one cares enough to pay.  No one.  Never.  No one.  Nope.  Never. Not gonna pay.  Not a chance. Ain&#039;t never payin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These media gezzers are still debating when/where/how/why to charge for the internet when that battle is already lost.  It&#8217;s not going to happen.  It&#8217;s like trying to make people charge their co-workers for gossip at the water cooler.  No one cares enough to pay.  No one.  Never.  No one.  Nope.  Never. Not gonna pay.  Not a chance. Ain&#8217;t never payin&#8217;.</p>
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