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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m Gonna Hold Some Of What I Got For Tomorrow</title>
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		<title>By: Howard Tayler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Tayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re-counting... there were only eight presentations, which takes us to 3/4ths. In my estimation only Amy and Cam were strict traditionalists among the bunch, and even their stuff was worth learning from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-counting&#8230; there were only eight presentations, which takes us to 3/4ths. In my estimation only Amy and Cam were strict traditionalists among the bunch, and even their stuff was worth learning from.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Tayler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Tayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

Your stuff was EXTREMELY compelling as a business model. I see no need for the traditional &quot;webcomics&quot; definition when what we&#039;re really talking about is alternatives to the traditional syndication revenue.

In that same vein I saw similar non-traditional approaches from five of the nine presenters. Six if you count me. That&#039;s 2/3rds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Your stuff was EXTREMELY compelling as a business model. I see no need for the traditional &#8220;webcomics&#8221; definition when what we&#8217;re really talking about is alternatives to the traditional syndication revenue.</p>
<p>In that same vein I saw similar non-traditional approaches from five of the nine presenters. Six if you count me. That&#8217;s 2/3rds.</p>
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		<title>By: Andertoons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andertoons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was another of the speakers at the Vegas event, and although I&#039;m probably not what you consider a webcomic, I would say that my web-based cartoon business model is outside the norm.  So maybe we can say one-and-a-half webcomics were represented?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was another of the speakers at the Vegas event, and although I&#8217;m probably not what you consider a webcomic, I would say that my web-based cartoon business model is outside the norm.  So maybe we can say one-and-a-half webcomics were represented?</p>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Try Our Thick, Creamy Shakes &#187; Yeah, Yeah, Day Of Atonement Was Yesterday, I&#8217;m Just Running 18 Hours Behind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleen: Try Our Thick, Creamy Shakes &#187; Yeah, Yeah, Day Of Atonement Was Yesterday, I&#8217;m Just Running 18 Hours Behind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] case you missed the comments thread from yesterday, Howard Tayler came back from the Success in Cartooning seminar (conference? meeting?) with a head [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Journalista &#8211; the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sept. 29, 2009: Different lessons to impart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalista &#8211; the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sept. 29, 2009: Different lessons to impart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;I&#8217;m not saying, Print sucks, web is the only model to success! &#8212; I am decidedly not saying that &#8212; but I think that if you&#8217;re going to talk about how to find/keep success in a world where print is rapidly receding, it would be helpful to find more than one person from the (let&#8217;s be kind and call it) non-traditional world, for surely many of them have followed different paths and would have different lessons to impart.&#8221; - Gary Tyrrell [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;I&#8217;m not saying, Print sucks, web is the only model to success! &#8212; I am decidedly not saying that &#8212; but I think that if you&#8217;re going to talk about how to find/keep success in a world where print is rapidly receding, it would be helpful to find more than one person from the (let&#8217;s be kind and call it) non-traditional world, for surely many of them have followed different paths and would have different lessons to impart.&#8221; &#8211; Gary Tyrrell [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Tayler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Tayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So very, very much I could talk about. So little space.

I&#039;ll suffice with this: I was not the only one of the nine presenters doing non-traditional things to make money. And I&#039;m not talking about self-syndication -- that&#039;s still pretty traditional.

While we in webcomics often pat ourselves on the back for proving the &quot;1000 True Fans&quot; model I think we do ourselves a disservice with our hubris. I learned an awful lot at this show.

Gary, if you&#039;d like to do an interview of some sort, I&#039;m game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So very, very much I could talk about. So little space.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll suffice with this: I was not the only one of the nine presenters doing non-traditional things to make money. And I&#8217;m not talking about self-syndication &#8212; that&#8217;s still pretty traditional.</p>
<p>While we in webcomics often pat ourselves on the back for proving the &#8220;1000 True Fans&#8221; model I think we do ourselves a disservice with our hubris. I learned an awful lot at this show.</p>
<p>Gary, if you&#8217;d like to do an interview of some sort, I&#8217;m game.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Tyrrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Tyrrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, what?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lowrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Lowrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...

If anyone actually wants the print-ready art for that Official Fleen Moustache On A Stick... just send a note to Gary and he&#039;ll bother me.  I&#039;m happy to supply an SVG or PDF or etc. as needed.</description>
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<p>If anyone actually wants the print-ready art for that Official Fleen Moustache On A Stick&#8230; just send a note to Gary and he&#8217;ll bother me.  I&#8217;m happy to supply an SVG or PDF or etc. as needed.</p>
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